What role do privacy tools play in crypto, and how does this discussion develop? Those were some of the questions at a panel I moderated last week at the DC Privacy Summit.

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Tornado Cash

The narrative

Last week, I moderated a panel at the DC Privacy Summit, hosted by Project Glitch and the Coinbase Institute, on what comes next in the ongoing discussions about privacy and crypto – through, naturally, the lens of Tornado Cash and the Department of Justice's case against developer Roman Storm. I want to share some of the thoughts the panelists – DeFi Education Fund's Miller Whitehouse-Levine, a16z Crypto's Michele Korver, House Financial Services Committee's Allison Behuniak and Starkware's Katherine Kirkpatrick Bos – discussed during the 30 minute session.

Why it matters

Roman Storm's case is still winding its way through the U.S. legal system. A trial is scheduled for sometime in December. However it resolves, there's still a broader question about the role Tornado and similar services play in cryptocurrency.

Breaking it down

Privacy – at least in a crypto context – has a fairly negative connotation at the moment. The U.S. Treasury Department previously moved to consider whether it should classify mixers – tools which are designed to obfuscate the trail of crypto transactions – as a "primary money laundering concern" due to their role in laundering and terrorist financing. Tornado Cash's most famous user is the Lazarus Group, a North Korean government hacking group.

This negative connotation needs to be acknowledged and discussed, said Kirkpatrick Bos, the chief legal officer at Starkware, during last week's panel. Advocates for privacy tools also need to acknowledge that some of the arguments in favor of privacy tools – purchasing legal goods or services without people knowing about them, for example – may not be persuasive when stacked up against criminal activity.

Whitehouse-Levine, the CEO of the DeFi Education Fund, said that the most concerning aspect about the Tornado Cash debate is that it's playing out in court, rather than in Congress or through a regulatory agency's rulemaking authority.

"I think [it's] a bad way to go about policy making, regardless of whether one is supportive of that policy or not," he said.

Behuniak, the staff director for a House subcommittee, said it could take "dozens of round tables" with lawmakers before they're comfortable holding a more formal hearing on an issue like the role of mixers and privacy tools in crypto.

An increasing number of lawmakers are willing to have a discussion about the benefit of mixers and what tradeoffs may be involved, she said, "but it will take time."

"But at a small scale, I think we have made some progress in expanding the number of members [of Congress] that care about this issue," she said.

On the industry side of this issue, companies need to have some certainty about what exactly regulators are thinking and what prosecutors are alleging, said Korver, a16z Crypto's head of Regulatory.

"Businesses need to have certainty whether they have obligations to do X or Y, and whether they can be held criminally responsible for it," she said. "There's a difference between getting that wrong, interpreting the guidance wrong for your business model, and having a conversation with regulators where they may be convinced – or if they aren't, that you may get a really painful fine, [versus] actually taking away somebody's liberty and charging them criminally."

In Storm's case, there's now an open question of how exactly Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) guidance about money transmitters applies. Attorneys have argued that the DOJ's charges against Storm would seem to go against this guidance.

This is playing out in the broader market structure debate in Congress, Behuniak said.

"Certainly absent legislation, if the SEC continues to pull in certain intermediaries, that doesn't just come with SEC obligations, that also comes with Bank Secrecy Act obligations," she said. "I think when it is determined what intermediaries should be captured, and then what exactly those requirements should be, I do think that conversation will receive more attention than it has."

Whatever legislation may happen – market structure or stablecoin legislation or something else entirely – may not solve all of the problems at issue but should still mark progress, Kirkpatrick Bos said.

Humans generally do want some form of privacy, Whitehouse-Levine said. People don't want others to read their journals, homes have blinds and so on: "That's why I think it's a fundamental human right."

Stories you may have missed

• Gary Gensler's Contentious Reign Over Crypto Approaches Its Twilight: CoinDesk's Jesse Hamilton wrote what may be a definitive accounting of Securities and Exchange Commission Chair Gary Gensler's effect on crypto over the past few years, and where things go from here. I'm classifying this as a must-read.
• Who's Afraid of Gary Gensler? Not Don Wilson, the Trader Who Beat the Regulator Once Before: CoinDesk's Cheyenne Ligon spoke to DRW's Don Wilson about the SEC's suit against his firm – as well as the suit DRW faced from the Commodity Futures Trading Commission when that agency was run by Gary Gensler.
• Binance's Gambaryan Free to Leave Nigeria for Medical Treatment After Money Laundering Charges Dropped: Binance Director of Financial Crime Compliance, Tigran Gambaryan, flew home late last week after Nigerian prosecutors dropped the remaining charges against him. The U.S. later announced a "bilateral liaison group" with the Nigerian government focused on crypto crimes.
• Citibank Debanked Ripple's Brad Garlinghouse Due to Crypto, Exec Says: Ripple's Brad Garlinghouse was personally debanked by Citi because he is a "notable person in crypto, and having notable people in crypto, and banking the crypto industry means more scrutiny from federal regulators," he said last week.
• Tether CEO Ardoino Says He Expects U.S. Will Catch Up in Crypto Regulation: Tether's chief executive, Paolo Ardoino, spoke virtually at a few U.S. events last week, including DC Fintech Week. The speaking engagements come after Tether hired a U.S. lobbyist. Also last week: The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. Treasury Department is considering whether to impose sanctions on the stablecoin issuer. Ardoino later tweeted that there was "no indication" of an investigation.
• Ripple Co-Founder Larsen Flooding Kamala Harris' Election Effort With XRP: Chris Larsen, Ripple's co-founder and executive chairman, donated $11 million in XRP to Future Forward, a political action committee supporting Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris.

This week

Wednesday

• 19:00 UTC (3:00 p.m. EDT) Former FTX Director of Engineering Nishad Singh will be sentenced for his guilty pleas on charges of conspiring to commit wire fraud and fraud, conspiring to commit money laundering and conspiring to violate campaign finance laws (important to note that this hearing was originally scheduled for 3:30 p.m. EDT) but was moved up half an hour last Friday). Singh's attorneys are asking for no prison time. The Department of Justice did not recommend a specific sentence – similarly to its filing about former Alameda Research CEO Caroline Ellison – but said he provided "substantial assistance" to prosecutors.

Elsewhere:

• (Reuters) A telecommunications industry group representing companies including Charter, Comcast, Cox, Disney and Warner Bros. sued the Federal Trade Commission over its rule requiring companies to make it as easy to unsubscribe from a service as it was to subscribe to it.
• (The American Prospect) Rep. Michelle Steel (R-Calif.) mailed out flyers accusing her Democratic challenger, Derek Tran, of owning "tens of thousands of dollars of cryptocurrency related to the Communist Party of China," according to the Prospect. Steel has received nearly $3 million from the crypto-focused super political action committee, Fairshake, and has an "A" rating from Stand With Crypto. A Fairshake spokesperson told CoinDesk he'd look into the matter when asked for comment. A Stand With Crypto executive did not respond to a request for comment.
• (Politico) Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick is running Donald Trump's transition team, and is taking heat from other Trump allies over allegations that he's discussing his business – including issues related to Tether, a Cantor client – during meetings about transition duties. Lutnick spoke at Trump's rally in Madison Square Garden on Sunday night, taking the stage after a number of speakers who made racist remarks about different groups in the U.S., as well as derogatory comments about Vice President Kamala Harris.
• (Wired) Wired's Andy Greenberg profiled ZachXBT, the internet sleuth known for his work on tracking crypto thefts and hacks.
• (TechCrunch) Someone offered Web3IsGoingGreat's Molly White cash to take down a post detailing the arrest of FutureNet founder Roman Ziemian. She later got a DMCA takedown request, purportedly from a a lawyer who does not appear to exist. White declined in both cases.
• (The Verge) The Verge's Nilay Patel interviewed Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi about tax policy. An Intuit spokesperson later asked him to delete part of the podcast recording. So anyways the whole thing is now published.

If you’ve got thoughts or questions on what I should discuss next week or any other feedback you’d like to share, feel free to email me at nik@coindesk.com or find me on Twitter @nikhileshde.

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